Repeats (in schedule recording options) cannot be modified

[amlopezalonso@…]

Hi,

Trying to modify "Repeats" option in scheduling options (contextual menu for a scheduled recording) has no effect as its value remains forever in "record new and repeat episodes" (translation could be somewhat different as I read it in spanish). Focus cannot reach this option.

Regards, Antonio

[gigem]

The repeats option is not applicable when either the recording rule is for a single program or the guide data does not provide the needed information to detect repeats. If neither of these is the case, please reopen this ticket and provide more specifics.

[amlopezalonso@…]

Single program is not obviously the case: any other "several recordings" option (like record always in this channel) would render repeats unavailable.

What do you mean by "guide data not provide the needed information to detect repeats"? In the past, I only ticked the "ignore duplicates" to schedule recordings when no subtitle was available and a series name (title) was always the same.

If you need some more info (like debugging logs) I will gladly provide some as long as you point me to the specific logs.

Regards, Antonio

[gigem]

Replying to amlopezalonso@…:

Single program is not obviously the case: any other "several recordings" option (like record always in this channel) would render repeats unavailable.

I don't understand this.

What do you mean by "guide data not provide the needed information to detect repeats"? In the past, I only ticked the "ignore duplicates" to schedule recordings when no subtitle was available and a series name (title) was always the same.

The guide data contains information that mythtv uses to identify programs that have been shown before. For example, some guide data have an original air date field while others have an explicit new/repeat flag and might. When present, mythtv uses the information to label some programs as repeats, aka previously shown.

Note that repeats should not be confused with rebroadcasts. Many networks rebroadcast the same program multiple times in a day or week. If a program is rebroadcast, that does not necessarily make it a repeat.

[amlopezalonso@…]

Replying to gigem:

Replying to amlopezalonso@…:

Single program is not obviously the case: any other "several recordings" option (like record always in this channel) would render repeats unavailable.

I don't understand this.

Let's suppose I want to record all weekly episodes of "Fringe" (one new per week) from the same channel. Then, when scheduling, I'd choose to "record weekly on this channel" (or so). But then I realize the broadcaster is filling the title field with "Fringe" but leave the subtitle field blank, so the scheduler "thinks" the rest of the season episodes are the same (duplicates) as the first one (as there is no episode title in the subtitle field) thus not recording them. In the past I'd just mark the "ignore duplicates" option and you're good to go: all episodes were recorded regardless whether they are the same or not. But that option is no more so I tried to use the "Repeats:" entry but found it is always unreachable for unknown reasons regardless of the scheduling type (weekly, etc.).

What do you mean by "guide data not provide the needed information to detect repeats"? In the past, I only ticked the "ignore duplicates" to schedule recordings when no subtitle was available and a series name (title) was always the same.

The guide data contains information that mythtv uses to identify programs that have been shown before. For example, some guide data have an original air date field while others have an explicit new/repeat flag and might. When present, mythtv uses the information to label some programs as repeats, aka previously shown.

That's fine with me though I'm not sure my EPG holds that kind of data (probably not). Nevertheless I'm talking about just recognizing new episodes. Title/subtitle is a common pair to tell between them but some broadcasters do not use the latter and that was what made "ignore duplicates" useful.

Note that repeats should not be confused with rebroadcasts. Many networks rebroadcast the same program multiple times in a day or week. If a program is rebroadcast, that does not necessarily make it a repeat.

Certainly, I got that clear.

Regards, Antonio

[gigem]

Replying to amlopezalonso@…:

Let's suppose I want to record all weekly episodes of "Fringe" (one new per week) from the same channel. Then, when scheduling, I'd choose to "record weekly on this channel" (or so). But then I realize the broadcaster is filling the title field with "Fringe" but leave the subtitle field blank, so the scheduler "thinks" the rest of the season episodes are the same (duplicates) as the first one (as there is no episode title in the subtitle field) thus not recording them. In the past I'd just mark the "ignore duplicates" option and you're good to go: all episodes were recorded regardless whether they are the same or not. But that option is no more so I tried to use the "Repeats:" entry but found it is always unreachable for unknown reasons regardless of the scheduling type (weekly, etc.).

Okay, that has nothing to do with repeats, at least as we define them in mythtv, and why it confused me.

To me knowledge, the "ignore duplicates" functionality is still there and works like it always has. If you tell me which version of mythtv and which theme you are using, I'll confirm that.

[amlopezalonso@…]

Replying to gigem:

Okay, that has nothing to do with repeats, at least as we define them in mythtv, and why it confused me.

To me knowledge, the "ignore duplicates" functionality is still there and works like it always has. If you tell me which version of mythtv and which theme you are using, I'll confirm that.

There you are:

v0.26-alpha-49-g262c7c7 (Steppes 1.8)

Regards, Antonio

[gigem]

Replying to amlopezalonso@…:

To me knowledge, the "ignore duplicates" functionality is still there and works like it always has. If you tell me which version of mythtv and which theme you are using, I'll confirm that.

There you are:

v0.26-alpha-49-g262c7c7 (Steppes 1.8)

Steppes uses a new feature in 0.26 that allows it to put the most commonly used options on the main screen of the schedule editor. All of the old options are still available on other screens. You just need to navigate to the other screens in one of two ways. One, press MENU and then choose the options screen you want. Two, press PREVVIEW/NEXTVIEW (Home/End? keys by default) to cycle through the screens.

[amlopezalonso@…]

Nice! Thank you very much! I didn't know that "hidden" extra menus.

Regards, Antonio